Topic, Game "BLockoban"

  Yeah, I would like to know how many rated a level 5 stars, how many 4 etc.
If they weren't anonymous, and you could see who rated, it would make user mod work easier (to see if same person rates all levels from an other user 1/5) for example.

About completing a level... I usually rate levels good if I find them fun, they have some cool new concept idea, or then they have extremely cool looking layout (and others who have completed it say it is good in comments).

At least don't rate because of category, as it might be MY own personal opinion about the difficulty.

JP you could make it so that you can't rate low levels if you don't comment too (and for example set it show on comments how much he rated the level). This would help also as no one wants to show that he is 1 rater on a extremely good level (for example he wants to set down the rating because he doesn't like the designer or something.

  First of all thanx for at least hearing me out. IMO any rating is acceptable in the sense that it is subjective (and every1 has the right to express its opinion). But it also has to be justified. I understand that players have a certain weight on rating and i respect that, but to be fair even a low rating by a new player (with not much weight) - if justified - can be of value and offer smt to the game. In this context my suggestion is to either force all players to rate (in order to have a more objective insight of the level) if they want their score to appear on screen or force ppl who rate i.e. 1 or 2 or even 3 to provide an explanation through a comment. In the first case ppl who do not usualy rate a level (most commonly are those liking it but forget to do so) will have to rate and in the second ppl who actually rate low can have the chance to provide a reasoning. This will be definitely appreciated by all of us (even we disagree).

In all cases, I am one of those who believe you should only rate a level when you solve it. By doing this you will avoid all low ratings based on the difficulty and you will value the votes which refer to skillful design, fun and challenging solution. If rating is actually based on how fun or interesting a level is, I don't get how someone votes without first solving it. I am sure I can get a very well designed, funny level etc, but (literaly or metaphoricaly) IMPOSSIBLE to solve. As it stands right now i could receive a 5/5 but would that mean anything? Thankfully Jxyz proved a point last week with his 'Stupid,but possible' level which was almost impossible to solve (ok it probably had only one solution in a millions of combination) but this level could have been rated 5/5. I believe we could get something good out of this and improve the game.

P.S. I pay my respects to all designers - good or bad doesn't make any difference to me - first for at least trying and second for actually succeeding in making my (our) time enjoyable and fun. I play every signle game (good-bad, rejected, accepted, etc) just ot be up to date. Frankly, some rejected levels have given me some ideas for new levels so I won't get tired saying this. Keep Drawing Guys!!

  Nice suggestion ToughMan and I also agree with oldmtnguy that ratings can be VERY frustrating. I might do something to encourage people post a feedback when they post a bad rating.

Many websites provides ratings, but so far I don't know one website that has solved the problem of unfair ratings, it's a very difficult one.

For the average rating of a level, you must know that each rater has a weight (depending on experience level and other many things). So if user with low wieght give 1/5 and another with heavy weight gives 5/5, the average will not be 3/5 but maybe 3.7/5 or something like that.


EDIT : by the way, 1500 approved levels today, congrats to all designers!

  Although I am not personally influenced by the rating (the reason is that only 3-4 players out of 20-30 solvers actually rate thus i respect more the comments, whichever they are, as ppl spend time and effort writing down their justification) I fully agree with oldmtnguy and I kindly ask all players (mainly those that give a bad rating) to at least explain why a certain level is not attractive to them. A well reasoned comment is highly valued and appreciated by the designer who will try to improve the quality of his levels and eventualy step up to the majority's expectations. This does not only apply to BB. It applies to all the games of the bonus level. As for the designers and for the time being, i hope you share my thoughts, pay a bit more attention to the comments and don't let any bad rating disappoint you. We definitely need each and every1 of you. Finally for the admins of the game, may i suggest (one of my many) showing in the 'More' section how many (not from who) voted 1, how many 2, etc just to have an idea and let the designer do the math.

  What do you think of my levels? I haven't made one since a month ago and i think it's time to make another one.

  oldmtnguy, unless specified otherwise on one of your levels, I think your levels are fantastic and currently the "meat" of the game, to be honest when I click a level to see who made it I am hoping for your name, (seeing a level made by Murat or Toughman is very nice but i know it means its time to stop what im doing and grab that thinking cap). I think Elizea held this roll before but you have taken up the reigns, so keep making levels damnit!

I try to remember to rate levels, because I know designers need the feedback, but lets be honest anyone can rate shouldnt look much into it, for instance I know for a fact people give levels 1/5 for them being "too hard" what kind of bad joke is that?

PS: I think we all can agree that you and murat especially have brought this game into a new era of excellence with just the shear quantity of very high qaulity levels you have made.

  It's a bad idea to post here, not everyone plays BB

  I am posting this here because it needs to be read by everyone. Referring to comments on Black Night as well as many others.
I agree with both Elizea and ToughMan, it is just annoying that people rate levels down with no reason. A rating or comment is the only feedback we have as designers. And constructive criticism is acceptable and appreciated, but a crappy rating to anyone without a reason chaps me off. If you don't like a level, at least have the guts to say why. Don't rate poorly just because you are frustrated or you can't solve it. Crappy ratings discourage designers, and that means fewer submissions, and eventually no game. So we need to work together if want to continue playing. If there is something you like or want, post it here. There are enough designers that I am sure someone will step up and fill your needs. This game and BonusLevel needs this to survive!

  Yes Jos. That's probably it. I now make that connection. It has appeared after i have tried a certain level. Thanks.

  ToughMan, I now it. You meen the squares that indicate you are playing that level at that moment (if you click on a level, move a block, click "menu" and switch between "unplayed", "all", etc.)

  non of the levels do that for me I dont think

  The levels you create have indeed a green outer colour but with white inside (and do not flash). The ones I am referring to are just green squares (other than yours) that are flashing and this is not continuous. I really have no idea.

  I kinda give up on this game. I'll play some more levels later.

  doesnt that just mean you made the level, or you talking about something different

  Could someone please tell me why in certain levels there is a flashing green square between the coloured square (stating whether the level is an official or accepted) and the coloured C (category)? Thnx.

  If i get another rejected level, i won't make anymore. I'll play the other levels though which are awesome.

  Jyxz, I'm waiting you to solve Colors Label (BLockoban).

  elizea come home fast i bet there are 10 levels waiting to be solved

  I'll check it when I get home (I am the only active admin here^^).

  Hey elizea or other admins dunno if any of you are active, i redid one of my very very old rejected levels I think it is quite good if you wouldn't mind taking a look at it?

  EXCELLENT LEVELS LAST NIGHT! thanks again blockoban creators, this game gets better every day = )!

  it isnt that great of a level but ihad fun solving it lol.

  Elisea! Apparently my question before was deleted, so maybe you "didn't notice", but I didn't get an answer. May I ask, what is the reason of rejection this time for the level Hard To Amuse (BLockoban) ?

[edit elizea]: I PMd about this already, check your inbox

  You people are killing me with those hard levels, but that's ok. It's taking too long to get that award.

  It usually happens to me in single block moves, but it might have with one block attached to a group as well; will have to watch for that.

  Mo, did you do it with a group? :\

  Here you can see the video, by Bruno-heey (obviously).

  I've tried that a few times, Im, and it does kinda make the highlighted block stick on the highlight but for me it gets unstuck and it has never made the screen go blank and game crash like in dy's pic.

  Quoting Garygoh884 from Game "BLockoban"


Maybeh dat?

  it happened to me when i moved normally too. It was my second move.