Topic, Game "BLockoban"

  Thanks Simon. The only real reason to use trusted powers is if you made a mistake in your design or other players feel that the level is in the wrong category. And if designers do their job correctly then being trusted is not needed. Being a trusted member is not an award and was created only to try to help administrators with small edits. So to all of you please don't try to make this into a bigger deal than it is.
The only reason I mentioned trusted members being added was to give category pack designers access for editing. But jp really likes the idea of category packs and will add a link on the game page for them when they are created.

@Jyxz Opening any level to multiple random editing would only cause chaos because two players could switch it back and forth multiple times due to personal preference. That is why we have a limited number of administrators and a to be edited category. I realize all levels are not for all players, and there are many levels that I prefer not to spend extra time on. We do however, need to keep the variety there for all the players. If you or anyone else ever feels the levels should not be accepted please feel free to PM me and I would be more than happy to work out a solution because this site does along to all of us.

  Maybe others do?

  I agree lmr, I actually never used my trusted powers.

  @Ferrari Yeah I agree lol it just doesnt matter where you put it right, cause if you make it below it pushes accepted into that position or what not... it would probably be easier to make accepted what i wanted for acknowledged then a new category about it.

  @Ferrari that would be neat too but this would all just get complicated at that point. :P

@lmr you have a point, but sometimes I run into the problem of where my own capabilities for solving blur the lines between how hard I think a level is and how hard it actually is...so sometimes experience can be deceiving. :)

Most of them want to be trusted members I think just as a personal achievement, as a way to show that they're "good enough" at Blockoban to be trusted.

  I thought kids and easy were the other way round.

  I thought so, but I didnt know for sure. Thanks BTW

  Blue=Kids
Black=Easy
Red=Medium
Green=Hard

  What do the C's next to the lvls mean? I only know Blue=Kids, Black=Easy

  Finally I am good in BLockoban!

  In my opinion, we don't need a new category of levels between "accepted" and "to be edited". I think there's no need for it. What I think would be much better is to have category between "official" and "accepted".

  Once again I will state( as I did about 3 or 4 months ago) When I create a level, I get an idea, create it, test it, tweek it, test it,thumbnail, local save, retest, solve. Solve again, upload. After I upload i play my level through my page. Thus the administrators know that it is a level that is playable, solvable and has a number of moves from which to optimize.
My point is you should all stop whining and going on about becoming TM's. If you created levels correctly in the first place you wouldn't need to edit them afterwards!!!!!!! By the time one is able to create levels, you should have enough experience to set the difficulty level. Based on similar levels.
Think about it!!!
By the way I really don't like the recent plethora of copy-cat levels.
Look at Pa's level #10668 'Tribute to new award' That is only one I remember the name of the original, as an example of what I am talking about.

  I get it, sort of a community editing box.

I think that might not work though, seeing as people often will disagree about categories, etc.
But it's a good idea :)

  Well I'm saying that if a level needs editing it just needs to be left in acknowledged then once its ship shape its moved to accepted, its not a question of being able to edit its a question of needing to, and once a level is accepted you shouldn't have to etc. etc.

  @chris I've never believed in the big maps category because it doesn't tell you how difficult a level is, it just tells you it's a big level. Duh. :P

@Jyxz maybe call it "Optimization" rather than acknowledged? :P
Yes, that might be a good idea, I too prefer the fun and challenge of solving those concise, tricky levels, rather than the challenge of cutting down as much as possible on my move count.

Although I disagree with the edit....it shouldn't be ANYONE, even if they were editable, and I think trusted members are a good idea for just making life easier for OMG. :)

  Should there be a big maps category like in BB2?

  I agree on first part, not on the edit part.
edit: I think there should be a 250th official level, because it's a more round and less scaring number.

  I think since there are going to be no more official levels we really need a new level category: Acknowledged: meaning that a level is solvable and fun to optimize but not quite original enough to be accepted. I have always found the most fun in levels that have around 5-8 targets but are so hard they take me hours to solve... then there are levels that present no challenge at all and certainly no original challenge, but I know they are great for the more active players who love to optimize, however I find with so many of them the levels that have a lot of time and genius thrown into them tend to get lost in the clutter. I dunno if what I'm saying make sense but I'm just trying to start the discussion, I'll add more thoughts later.

Edit: Anyone should be able to edit acknowledged levels until are refined enough to be accepted... then accepted levels I think shouldn't be allowed to be edited at all, trusted or not.

  Elevator (BLockoban), Sory admins, I forgot to write UNF. Now it's really done...

  Hey Jyxz it's good to have you back you have been missed. Hope you realize that if you hadn't been gone for so long it wouldn't be so hard to catch up.

  So on a lighter note... I solved over 100 blockoban levels today, around 200 if you count the ones from after midnight last night. =)

So I was trying to make it to <1000 levels unsolved, while oldmtnguy was accepting new levels! I had to work hard to solve faster then he could accept them. =)

  Wow wow, take it easy! What do ya mean??

  Do U have any other PROBLEMS ?????

  So you need skills, be trusted by admins et cetera?

  I'd also like to point out, trusted members don't have to be selected by the game creator. Admin level 1s can also add trusted members. E.g. I added Kiethy342 as trusted in JG2 some time ago.

  Oh Ok then :/

  Great explanation OMG!

Basically, trusted members are members that are able to be trusted by the admins of the game, or admin of this site (JP). That's the short version.

  They were chosen by jp and his administrators as they were needed for exhibiting the level of character that I mentioned. And I'm not saying that nobody else deserves to be trusted. If jp feels that more trusted members are required then I'm sure that more will be appointed.

  How to be trusted then? How did people become Trusted?

  Let me explain about a trusted member. Being a trusted member is not an award. A trusted member has access to and the ability to edit his/her own uploaded levels. A trusted member has no access to other players levels except to play.
The position of trusted member was created to allow for small editing changes normally done by an administrator. Such as spelling corrections in the title or changing of difficulty category. The levels could also be modified if there was an error in design. This is where the term trusted comes into play. If a level is changed so as to make the current scores impossible,then an administrator needs to be called to reset the affected scores. If this happens too often it adds too much confusion to the game. That is why a member is trusted not to make unnecessary changes. If every member was allowed to change their own levels whenever they felt like it, the game would be thrown into chaos. That is why most of the changes are left up to an administrator.
Qualifications to be a trusted member are being a good proven designer, not submitting unproven or unacceptable levels, not causing unnecessary conflict, an excellent knowledge of the game and how it works, a concern for excellence in the game and a proven mature attitude.